Within five or 10 years, in the wake of further terrorist assaults in the west, new and unpleasant laws will probably have been introduced to Britain. But they should not have come yet, in the face of a threat still unproven, at the behest of a government which has shown itself unfit to exercise discretion wisely. If Tony Blair was capable of such self-analysis, he might blush in shame and humiliation, that to many of us it would have been preferable to risk the malevolence of al-Qaida than to entrust his ministers with further latitude for abuse of our liberties.
Now compare this with the Democrat and Republican positions in the US. Interesting, eh?
Because I'm a politician in a suit, I wince at the occasional word but actually what he said is really what I think.
Sometimes Blair still manages to show why he was elected by a landslide in the first place.
How did he achieve the miracle this time around? A clampdown on corporate tax avoidance announced last year. "For instance, merchant bankers have had record bonuses. But this time, the money hasn't all gone offshore." .(Pause while US liberals and libertarians sigh wistfully.) Tax breaks for investors in small companies and a huge surge in public investment have also been carefully timed to boost the economy at about the time of the election.
According to the Institute for Fiscal Studies, some of the poorest people have had their incomes boosted by 10 per cent through tax credits and benefits since 1997, whereas the richest have had their incomes reduced by about seven per cent through tax rises.
Robert Peston, The Sunday Telegraph's City editor and author of Brown's Britain said: "Gordon Brown wants to be what he calls a credible socialist. That means retaining the confidence of the City, while doing the traditional things that Labour does - such as redistribute wealth to the poor and spend heavily on health and education.
"As far as he is concerned, that is the whole point."
Nice one, Gordon.
"I don't think you can hold anybody accountable for a situation that maybe if you had done something different, maybe something would have occurred differently," he said. "It's a lesson learned that we need to capture and think about for the future."
and responds:
Interesting theory. You can't hold someone accountable just because if they'd done their job then detainees might not have been abused. But isn't that the idea behind criminal charges of negligent homicide or neglecting a child? Is it a defense to say that if you hadn't been negligent the person still might have died? The child still might have gotten hurt? I don't think so. It might mitigate penalties, but it doesn't eliminate your responsibility. Except in Bush's military, apparently. But only for senior level officials.
Good point, Citizen.
I guess when you are the Empire, you don need no steenkin treaties.
I never read Hunter S. Thomson. I loathed Miller's work which was depressing as hell. Dave Allen made me laugh, gave me an appreciation for religious tolerance at an early age, and always had a turn of words that put old situations in a new, thoughtful, light. Here is one of his best, which could easily be turned to the modern Evangelists of the US.
A man goes to heaven, and St Peter shows him around. They go past one room, and the man asks: "Who are all those people in there?" "They are the Methodists," says St Peter. They pass another room, and the man asks the same question. "They are the Anglicans," says St Peter. As they're approaching the next room, St Peter says: "Take your shoes off and tiptoe by as quietly as you can." "Why, who's in there?" asks the man. "The Catholics," says St Peter, "and they think that they're the only ones up here.
Goodnight, Dave, and may your God go with you.
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Great list, C. Some comments:
It only took them 3 years to issue a fatwa against a terrorist and mass murderer? Kudos to them!
I agree 100% with the spirit of Max Hasting's post... I don't know how well it applies at this moment, though.
I was very impressed with the UPC... nobody jumped on the Sgrena bandwagon.
I hope Gordi is as smart as you say. If so he'll block EU interference in Britians affairs.
Citizen Rent has a good point. However, the mitigating circumstances are pretty powerful, here.
The US is sovereign above all... if these treateis interfere with our soveeignty we won't sing them. That's GOOD, not bad, especially considering how completely effed up the US is- raping, refusing to recognize genocide, fueling terrorism, etc.
Does Geldoff think we should conquer Africa to free it?
I never heard of David Allen,j but I'm sorry for your loss.
Cheers!
Hark
So...."Cernig", you believe this one article over the heap I sent you about Sgrena?
A ransom was paid for her release, the yanks don't like ransoms being paid for the release of abductees.Work it out.
I couldn't stand Hunter Thompson, a selfish man whose life and writing was all about him, what he did and how he did it, and the final bit, to blow his brains out while talking to his wife on the phone and knowing his 5yr old grandson would come in with his parents and find him were the final disgusting act of a man who was 5ft tall and 6ft up himself.
Dave Allen? We Aussies knew him well.He spent a lot of time here where he was much loved.The TV news did big commentaries on his death...good old Dave with the missing finger and a different story each time for how he lost it.
I always loved that he never missed giving the Cathoholics a serve.
That quote though is stolen from an old poem can't remember who wrote it.
I don't mind that he did that, he was a good bloke.
shadows
Hi Shadows,
I read all the articles you sent - many seemed to be making a lot out of not much detail to me...speculation in other words. I'm glad I waited, as this article, by a very liberal newspaper with usually impeccable accuracy, seems pretty conclusive. Yes, I think the soldiers messed up too however...that's not "leftie nonsense" Harky - as the guys at OpTruth think the same thing and are blaming inadequate training especially for Guard members.
Harky,
1) The Germans and French are likely slobering at the thought of letting Gordon fix their economies - they probably plan to hand over their piggy banks at the earliest opportunity :-)
2)"the mitigating circumstances are pretty powerful, here." What mitigating circumstances could there be for the upper military echelons and their political masters sidestepping their leadership responsibilities and letting the axe fall instead on junior enlisted under their command? I can't see how there could be any. Can you explain in more detail?
Regards, C
Hi "Cernig", sorry for being a smart-arse about Sgrena, it's your call, not mine.
I was "tired and emotional".
Did you know that Dave Allen had a Tonight show in Australia in the fifties?
Ah..the fifties...when I was young(er).
shadows
Shadows,
No worries as you say in Oz. I know you are a lady with a lot on her plate right now - I wish I could wave a magic wand and make it all come right.
Dave Allen was something, eh? Thinking about it, it's amazing how his style and his philosophy of laid-back tolerance became a huge influence on me as a kid watching his shows in the 70's. He also gave the world my all time favourite joke - the "leprechaun nun" joke.
Regards, C
Thanks 'Cernig" you are a sweetie.
Pleeease tell me the leprechaun nun joke.I really loved Dave Allen.It was from him that I first thought about the idea of people having different gods.As you can imagine it wasn't encouraged in the convent.
When he said...may your god go with you.I thought it was the most profound thing I ever heard.Still do.
shadows
Shadows, you are probably the only person who could get me to post this...
One day there's a knock at the convent door. The Mother Superior answers it and looks around - nobody there. Then she looks down and jumps in surprise - there are two leprechauns standing there.
The first leprechaun says "Mother Superior, if you would be so kind, we were wondering...are there any leprechaun nuns at this convent?"
"No, I'm araid not." the Mother Superior replies.
"well then, Mother, are there any leprechaun nuns anywhere in Ireland?"
"Again, I'm afraid there are not. Please excuse me, I must get back to my devotions" says the Mother Superior, slightly impatiently.
"Mother Superior, before you go...are there any leprechaun nuns anywhere in the world?" asks the first little guy.
"No! There are NO leprechaun nuns! Now goodbye!" Shouts the Mother Superior and slams the convent door.
The first leprechaun turns to his friend and says:
"See, told you. You were fucking a penguin."
Regards, C
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